Talgarth, Grwyne Fawr and Y Grib loop
Talgarth, Grwyne Fawr and Y Grib loop
4.4
(22)
179
riders
04:39
47.1km
1,380m
Mountain biking
Embark on the Talgarth, Grwyne Fawr and Y Grib loop for a demanding mountain biking adventure through the Black Mountains. This difficult route spans 29.3 miles (47.1 km) and involves a significant 4527 feet (1380 metres) of elevation gain, typically taking around 4 hours and 38 minutes to complete. You'll…
Last updated: April 23, 2026
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Includes very steep uphill segments
You may need to push your bike.
After 4.82 km for 1.53 km
After 23.1 km for 136 m
After 33.8 km for 432 m
Waypoints
Start point
Parking
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6.41 km
Highlight (Segment) • Trail
Tip by
9.33 km
Highlight • Mountain Hut
Tip by
24.9 km
Highlight (Segment) • Trail
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36.8 km
Highlight (Segment) • Trail
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47.1 km
End point
Parking
Way Types & Surfaces
Way Types
18.0 km
14.7 km
14.2 km
148 m
< 100 m
Surfaces
23.1 km
14.9 km
3.56 km
2.96 km
2.33 km
221 m
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This route was planned by komoot.
This is a challenging route designed for a full day in the saddle. Komoot estimates the riding time to be around 4 hours 38 minutes, but with breaks, technical sections, and significant climbs, plan for a 6-8 hour adventure. It's a committing ride in a remote area, so allow ample daylight.
The terrain is highly varied and demanding. You'll encounter a mix of paved and unpaved country lanes, gravel access roads, singletrack, and moorland tracks. Expect epic climbs, including a 'push-carry-thrutch' section up to Y Dâs, and thrilling descents. Parts of the Grwyne Fawr Valley Trail can be technically challenging and very boggy, especially outside of summer months.
No, this route is not suitable for beginners. It is consistently rated as 'difficult' or 'black' and requires advanced mountain biking skills, excellent bike handling, and a very high level of fitness. Riders should be prepared for significant elevation gains, technical descents, and potentially pushing their bikes on steep sections.
The loop offers spectacular views throughout the Black Mountains. Key points include the serene Grwyne Fawr Valley Trail and the Grwyne Fawr Reservoir. You'll also get panoramic vistas from Y Dâs and Twmpa, with the Brecon Beacons National Park stretching out below. The Grwyne Fawr Bothy is another notable landmark.
While the route is named after Talgarth, specific trailhead parking isn't detailed. However, Talgarth serves as a common starting point for routes in this area. Look for public parking options within Talgarth village, keeping in mind that this is a remote area and dedicated mountain bike parking facilities might be limited. Always check local signage for parking restrictions.
The best time to ride this challenging loop is during the drier summer months (June to September) when the trails are less likely to be boggy, especially in the Grwyne Fawr Valley Trail sections. Spring and autumn can also be beautiful but be prepared for rapidly changing weather conditions, colder temperatures, and potentially very wet and muddy sections.
Yes, the route incorporates sections of several other trails. You'll find yourself on parts of the Beacons Way, the Black Mountains Fell Race route, and the Cambrian Way, among others. This adds to the varied experience of the loop.
Yes, dogs are generally allowed on this route, but it's crucial to keep them under close control or on a leash, especially due to livestock (sheep and ponies) grazing freely on the open moorland. Be mindful of ground-nesting birds during breeding season (March-July) and ensure your dog is fit enough for a long, strenuous ride.
No, there are no specific permits or entrance fees required to access the trails within Bannau Brycheiniog National Park (formerly Brecon Beacons National Park). However, please adhere to the Countryside Code, respect private land, and follow any local regulations or signage you encounter, especially regarding parking or specific access points.
This is a remote route with very limited facilities. The most notable stop is the Grwyne Fawr Bothy, which offers basic shelter but no services. It's essential to carry all your own food, water, and emergency supplies. Talgarth village, at the start/end, will have cafes and pubs for pre- or post-ride refreshments.
Given the route's remoteness and difficulty, bring essential mountain biking gear, including a well-maintained bike, helmet, gloves, and appropriate clothing for all weather conditions. Carry plenty of water, high-energy snacks, a first-aid kit, navigation tools (GPS device or map and compass), a repair kit with spare tubes/puncture repair, and a headlamp, even if you plan to finish before dark. Inform someone of your route and expected return time.
This tour is not ideal in 33 degree heat of August 2022. There are several sections which are overgrown and almost unrideable. There is 2 or 3 severe climbs that require you to push and carry your bike. Requires very expert riding and physical fitness. Even on an ebike did 700w battery to empty on trail mode